Pathways for training from and through our radio organizations do exist for somebody who comes in, whether they're 15 or 65. Our network offers training for someone who has no knowledge. Often, people are from communities that come from outside of Canada and are settling here in Canada, bringing their own languages as well. There's often even that separation of knowledge and ability.
We are seeing a shift in the formalized structures and steps by which people go through post-secondary education. Close to two-thirds of the journalism and broadcasting schools have closed in Canada. What we've seen is an inability for people who are interested to go through training as a formalized process.
There's obviously a blend of non-profits, professional groups, mentorships and so on that are available, but that core pathway has been impacted dramatically over the last six months to a year.