Thank you both.
Ms. Brewin, to the point on rising development pressures, which can at times make it more challenging for local creative spaces to survive, it's also important to highlight that young people are looking for accessible arts and music spaces closer to where they live. What federal policy tools do you believe could help preserve accessible creative and performance spaces in rapidly growing urban centres?
Perhaps I'll turn to Ms. Brewin and Ms. Benjamin, noting that you have roughly a minute left.