Evidence of meeting #21 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was definition.
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9:30 p.m.
NDP
The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green
Okay. I appreciate you sharing your perspective.
Are there any other perspectives on the motion?
Yes, Senator.
9:30 p.m.
The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface
Mr. Chair, while I appreciate the thrust of it, I am concerned in terms of the role that we're asking the law clerks to play. I'm not sure that's the role they play. I've been upfront in my concern on this in the previous motion, and for that reason, I wouldn't be able to support it.
9:30 p.m.
Conservative
9:30 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
Thank you, Chair.
Are you proposing, then, Senator Boniface, that the law clerks be completely removed from this, and that it is asked that those documents come to this committee? Is that what you're asking?
9:35 p.m.
The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface
No, I'm just speaking strictly to this. I share the concern that Mr. Virani raised, because I asked the same question around the reference to the Senate in here. I'm wondering whether this is something that.... I guess I'm not proposing anything. I'm just putting my position on the table.
9:35 p.m.
NDP
The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green
Are there any other interventions on the motion?
Ms. Bendayan, go ahead.
9:35 p.m.
Liberal
Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC
I believe this comes from the green book, but I'm double-checking to get a page number. In terms of the discussion, Mr. Chair, that you were having with my colleague, Mr. Virani, it does state specifically that a committee has no power to send documents to a court or other body, only the power to send for documents. I just wanted to provide that information to colleagues.
9:35 p.m.
NDP
The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green
I'll take you at your word. I have no reason to believe you are not citing appropriate protocol.
We have a motion that has been duly put. Do we want to call the question?
We'll call the question.
9:35 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
Before we get there, Chair, could I ask a question?
9:35 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
I'm looking for consensus. Is there any consensus that we want these documents? Do we want any documents? If we have to adjust the wording....
9:35 p.m.
An hon. member
The Chair, I believe, has already called the vote.
9:35 p.m.
NDP
The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green
I did call the vote, procedurally. There was ample opportunity for intervention. I did call the vote.
We will now proceed with the vote.
(Motion negatived: nays 5; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Procedurally on a tie, the motion fails.
That concludes the motions that were presented. Unless there is any other business.... I would just note that we have a hard stop at 9:42 p.m.
With that being said, is it the committee's will that the committee be adjourned?
We are adjourned.