I think it depends who you ask the question to.
I definitely had more conversations with the RCMP than the Ottawa police, but I believe the RCMP had more conversations with the Ottawa police than it had with me. What I participated in were regular briefings that involved the RCMP, which told us what was happening across the country, since the RCMP is in many jurisdictions. There were also conversations with the OPP and Sûreté du Québec, but I wasn't participating in those consultations and conversations, although they were reported to the group of deputies.