I think we need to find the right incentive for the market to actually play the role that we expect it will play. If you look at the climate change plan, it's basically what we're trying to do. When you look at the clean fuels, when you're thinking about CCUS in the U.S. and here, you're thinking about how to create the incentive. As well, as government you can use a mix of carrot and stick for the market to adjust, for the market to go in the direction that the future is demanding.
That's not necessarily industrial planning in the old Russian way of doing things, if I may say, but it is—