Unfortunately, there have been, with Enbridge, over 33 spills on Line 5 of 1.1 million gallons. Line 6B, which is also in the Kalamazoo River in Michigan, has experienced a significant spill of one million gallons. This is fuelling the influence in the U.S.
The understanding I have is that the U.S. is saying “it doesn't really affect us”, that it's oil from out west in Canada that's going out east in Canada, so there's much more of a downside for them, the Americans, to continue—that's what I'm hearing from them—than there is an upside.
I wonder if you could counter that. Why is it more in the best interests of the U.S. to keep Line 5 going underwater than it is to cancel that and go through with what the Michigan governor has said?