Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to acknowledge my colleagues and thank our witnesses for their time today. I have a question for Mr. Mancinelli of the Laborers' International Union of North America.
We can imagine that the trade unions are in favour of an energy transition, but they are also the defenders of their own members. In this case, you obviously don't want to see job losses. That's understandable, and we applaud your fight in that regard. However, there's something I struggle to understand in this story, and that's the fact that this isn't a debate of opinions. If the Governor of Michigan says one thing and Enbridge claims to have its own studies, then someone is obviously right, objectively speaking. It's not a matter of opinion.
Earlier, you said that the Governor of Michigan's excuses were totally unfounded.
Have any third-party studies been done on this?