I'm trying to remember all the different parts of it.
I think we understand, to take the last thing first, the idea that there isn't enough testing and alternatives. We are recommending that there be a process to look at alternatives in terms of where there are safe substitutions.
There are two kinds of alternatives, in a way. One is other PVC that has other softeners in it, and there may be some of those softeners that haven't been well tested. But we know there are other products that are made from polypropylene or from nylon where Health Canada itself has not expressed any concern that there's any leaching or any problems. We know there are substitutes out there that we are fairly comfortable are safe.