The tradition is that you would have an odd number at a committee so that you would not be in a stalemate where it could be at least two, two, two, two--two against and two in favour. The tradition is that you would have an odd number in a committee so you would never be able to be in a deadlock. Is that correct?
Chair, I've had many years in government and in local government, which is a very honest form of government. I think it served me well to learn the basics of a very functioning committee structure. I haven't seen the dysfunction of committee until, as Mr. Cullen said, the last experience. We need to build a structure that is effective and fair. So I think the question is relevant, through you to Mr. Regan, that we need to make sure that we're not at a deadlock.
My understanding is that you would have an odd number. We have an odd number here. If there were a tie, you would then have the chair, being the odd number, to break the tie. In a subcommittee, then, to avoid that type of deadlock, you would have an odd number. My question is, what is the norm? Then I have another question.