Evidence of meeting #19 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
March 5th, 2008 / 4:05 p.m.
Conservative
Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON
There's no ruling, because there's no challenge. It's entirely out of order, Mr. Chair.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
We have a challenge. I've made a ruling, and it has been challenged.
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Some hon. members
No, no.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
My ruling has been challenged, and therefore I would ask those in favour of my ruling--
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Conservative
Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK
Mr. Chair, there's no ruling to be made here. The members, as ludicrous as it possibly--
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Conservative
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC
No, we're not going to vote, because you cannot vote to change Standing Orders. We'll abstain.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
Yesterday we discussed that committees are masters of their own fate, and I think we agreed that was the case. We have a challenge to my ruling, which was to let you carry on and that he couldn't introduce that motion.
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Conservative
Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK
Why do we have the mockery of even referring to the clerk in this case? What's the point of that? It's absolutely bizarre. You might as well pitch every book in this room.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
Just so everyone understands--and I believe I can make it clear--I am ruling that Mr. Cullen's motion is out of order, that he cannot make that motion. He is challenging that ruling I just made--
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
--and he has a right to challenge my decision. My decision is based on advice from professionals, who have been here for a long time, who say that Mr. Cullen's motion is out of order.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
--committees.
Mr. Cullen is challenging that, and I need to put that to a vote.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
It is a recorded vote. You are voting on whether you agree with my ruling or not.
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An hon. member
It will take me a while to decide this issue. I need some considerable time. This is quite a serious thing.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
I have ruled that his motion is out of order.
Okay, you can take as long as you want.
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Conservative
Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC
I am about in the same paradoxical situation as Maurice concerning…
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
Order, please. We are voting.
(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 5; yeas 2)
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
Now we will go on to Mr. Cullen. I was overruled.
Mr. Warawa, on a point of order.