Evidence of meeting #23 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
It is set. It's Watson, Warawa, McGuinty, Bigras, Cullen, Vellacott, and Godfrey.
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
I'm sorry, yesterday Mr. Warawa was on the speakers list at the front end. How can he now be in advance? In fact it was Mr. Harvey yesterday. You read into the record that Mr. Harvey was the next speaker after Mr. Watson. So I'm confused about why the substitution today.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
There was no substitution. This is the exact list I had yesterday, and this is in the blues.
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
But didn't Mr. Warawa speak at length yesterday? In fact, I think he spoke for--
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
--and then as hands went up, Watson, Warawa, McGuinty, Bigras, Cullen, and that was read into the record. It's right here in the blues.
And Mr. Watson asked at the end of the meeting:
Mr. Chair, I have the floor, unless you're adjourning the meeting.
This is not a point of order. I have the floor for discussion.
The Chair: I need unanimous consent to stay during the bells. The bells have started, I need unanimous consent to stay here, to stay and not go and vote.
An hon. member: Does he have the floor after?
The Chair: He has the floor next, yes.
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Liberal
John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON
On a point of clarification, really there were two different speakers lists, isn't that right? The first speakers list was the one that dealt with clause 10. Then there was a second speakers list, which was developed to talk about the proposed change of plan, of time allocation. Is that right?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
That sounds reasonable, yes. This speakers list, I guess, goes with this motion.
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Liberal
John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON
That's right, and in fact this doesn't help us at all. We've just done ourselves in by saying this, but here we go.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
At this point, Mr. Watson is next, because it says so in the blues. And then we--
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Conservative
Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON
Mr. Chair, may I speak to that? In terms of the speaking list that was on the motion, was the list you just read off with respect to Mr. Cullen's motion?
Okay. So if we're reverting back to Bill C-10, should it have been the speaking order where we left off on Bill C-10 prior to Mr. Cullen's motion? Whoever had the floor should be at that point, and then—
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
Well, here's the list that I had. Mr. Warawa started, I believe, and Mr. Vellacott spoke next--
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Conservative
Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK
He was speaking at the time he was interrupted.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Bob Mills
By the point of order of Mr. Cullen. So then Mark is....
Well, the other thing we do is put names in a hat and draw a speaking order. But seriously, the blues would confirm, I think, that Mr. Warawa had the floor at that time. I believe it should then not be Mr. Watson, unless we were talking about the motion, but Mr. Warawa. We have that in the blues.
Now, who's next?
Then there is no speaking list. The clerk will now take the speaking order.
What I have is a list from April 1, 2008, and I did not change it or do it today. I have it crossed out, of course, because of the motion. The order I had was Mr. Warawa, Mr. Vellacott, Mr. Harvey, Mr. Watson, Mr. Cullen, and Mr. McGuinty. There was some dispute over that list—it's in the blues—about when the list was done, and so on. Of course, as we went into this, I said we were discussing clause 10. Hands went up, and I recorded them, and there was some dispute over that.
I believe we should begin with Mr. Warawa, or we're going to run out of time totally.
Can we move on, then, with clause 10 as amended? The speaking order is as follows: Mr. Warawa, Mr. Vellacott, Mr. Harvey, Mr. Watson, Mr. Cullen, and Mr. McGuinty.
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Liberal
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
Can you confirm for Canadians who are watching whether any member other than a Conservative member has spoken to the merits of these clauses on clause-by-clause, since we began this process? Not on points of order--
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
That's right. Has any other member, other than these four Conservative members, spoken to these clauses?
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Liberal
David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON
After introducing it, yes. After that, anything else? Could you check the record?