No. Our view is that if you just have cap and trade, you're missing a huge number of emissions. Let me give you an example from the forest industry. If you just have cap and trade, the only place where you can get to us is in the mills. That means that the emissions from our trucks, from landfill, from our products—all of that—aren't captured. We believe in cap and trade. We also believe in a carbon tax to catch those things that are not point-source.
The next question is, would you applaud a cap and trade and carbon tax system? The answer is yes, if it's done intelligently, if the detail is right. There are cap and trade systems we would find totally unacceptable and there are ones we would find acceptable, and the case is same with the carbon tax. These binary sorts of choices are not so simple.