Evidence of meeting #38 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I'm going to call the question.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

Just for the information of members, the motion isn't defeated, it's just adjourned. We can return to debate on this motion at a later time.

Mr. Calkins.

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

Mr. Chair, I believe I'm in order by discussing this--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

We have a point of order from Mr. Bigras.

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

I think a decision was made. We just voted. You should have used the gavel to indicate that the debate was over.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Are you on a point of order, Mr. Calkins?

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

No, I'm not. I just want to speak to move a motion, actually, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Okay, move a motion. You have the floor.

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

Given the fact that debate has been brought to a crashing halt on this particular bill, I'm not sure what's going to happen--

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

No!

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

--insofar as this. I assume that it will be discussed at the next meeting, or whatever the case might be, Mr. Chair, but there'll be no vote on that particular motion. That motion has now been dealt with insofar as this particular committee meeting.

Therefore, I believe I would be in order, given the information that we've heard, and given the fact that my motion, I believe, is relevant to the discussions that are being talked about before this committee--

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Mais non.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

May we get the motion on the table first, Monsieur Bigras?

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

No.

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

I would move that, pursuant to the relevant standing orders, the committee recommends clause-by-clause of Bill C-469 be suspended in order to receive additional briefs and hear additional witness testimony.

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Non.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Just hang on. Let me get this motion straight first.

Before we get the points of order....

Order!

Let me just consider this for a minute, please.

5 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I'm going to call the meeting back to order.

The motion is in order. We are in committee business, so we can accept this. It is relevant to the discussion happening.

It is moved by Mr. Calkins that pursuant to the relevant standing orders, the committee recommends clause-by-clause of Bill C-469 be suspended in order to receive additional briefs and hear additional witness testimony.

Mr. Calkins, you have the floor.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Can I get on the speaking list?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

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Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Wetaskiwin, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I appreciate the opportunity to have this motion.

You know, it's becoming obvious to me that the coalition now has played their cards insofar as what they're wanting to do. They want to close down debate on this particular issue before Canadians wake up to the reality of what this dangerous piece of legislation would actually do.

So Mr. Chair, I--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I have a point of order from Mr. Scarpaleggia.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

On a point of order, I understand that we don't want to impugn motives here, but when we refer to members as part of a “coalition”, are we not impugning motive?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Yes, we've been trying to discourage...or we've been trying to increase the decorum in here, and the respect.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Yes: you know, it's false.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

At the same time, let me just say that we are all politicians here. When we're talking about parties, that's where I can't really comment. When we're attacking individual members, that's when I'll come to your defence every time.