Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to both the witnesses. This has been very interesting. It has been really interesting to listen to your testimony.
My first question goes to Mr. Hummel. When you talked about sharing the leadership, that struck me. You said that NGOs have great and innovative ideas. I'm just wondering if you could just share with us a bit more about how we tap into that, this sort of innovation that's happening on the ground.
How would we support that? Is it a matter of supporting programs with groups that maybe are trying out different things? Some will work and some won't. Is it sort of like the cream rises to the top? What's the best way to support that innovation?