I wouldn't put the emphasis there, really, because when we think of conservation in a policy sense, we are stuck with two things: creating protected lands and trying to protect endangered species to keep them from going extinct. We need new thinking around public policy about how to maintain the health and integrity of ecosystems and restore those that we've already damaged. That's where I think a regulatory framework will help. I think that's where we need to engage the provinces.
I will remind you that we beat acid rain. I referred to that in my presentation. We beat it with federal government leadership across two different parties holding government, and the participation of six provinces in this country and civil society. We beat it. I don't see why we can't tackle this issue, which is large, in a similar way. We have to have the political will. We have to have some vision and some wisdom.