They absolutely count. It's the reality.
So we need to have a system that's independent and that we can rely on, and there must be sufficient support and resources for the public to participate. The system now is incredibly Machiavellian. You apply for some funds to support your submission and you get a letter back telling you how much you'll get. It has nothing to do with how much you asked for or the real costs involved.
That's something that needs to be addressed as well: the public needs to be supported so that it can participate fully. It's not a system where you have a few people come and say their few words and then you listen to them, write it down, say thank you very much, and go ahead. This is how the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission operates, by the way. They have hearings in order to let people yell at them and then they go ahead with their decisions.
So we need an independent system. If we're going to put more effort into CEAA itself, then CEAA needs to be bulked up. It has to have the capability to do it. What we're seeing is that we're giving it more authority and more things to do and then taking away its money. So I don't see how it's possibly going to work. Whatever changes are made, we'll be back here seven years from now, and they'll be saying exactly the same things because there will still be delays, because—