And just to respond, my background comes from the environmental community. That's where I started my career. In my experience—both in my career in the environmental movement but now in the industry sector—we actually have quite a bit of common ground. It's a matter of finding processes where we can come together and finding where that common ground is.
It benefits both sides. It benefits proponents of projects, but I think it also benefits the environmental community to understand each other's frame. And really, we have and will continue to have many instances where we work quite closely with the environmental community.