Evidence of meeting #38 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was principle.

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November 19th, 2014 / 3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

I'd like to call our meeting of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development to order. This is meeting number 38. We all know that the purpose of our meeting today is to discuss the clause-by-clause analysis and approval of Bill S-5, an act to amend the Canada National Parks Act with respect to Nááts’ihch’oh national park reserve of Canada.

We are going to begin with clause-by-clause consideration. As you all are aware, we always leave the short title until later, so we'll move to clause 2.

We don't have any motions on clause 2, 3, or 4.

(Clauses 2 to 4 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 5)

We'll move now to clause 5. We have a number of amendments here, PV-1, PV-2, PV-3, and PV-4, and these are all deemed tabled even though the mover is not present.

We will ask our legislative clerk to give us her information on these.

With respect to PV-1, this amendment proposes to remove the powers outlined for the minister with respect to his or her ability to enter into leases or licences of occupation of and easements over public lands in the park for the purpose of establishing a mining access road.

This amendment, therefore, seeks to do the exact opposite of what the clause intends and goes against the principle of this clause.

Members who do not agree with the powers outlined for the minister simply should vote against this clause, as House of Commons Procedure and Practice, second edition, states on page 766:

An amendment to a bill that was referred to committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.

In the opinion of the chair, this amendment is contrary to the principle of the bill. Therefore, the amendment is inadmissible.

PV-2 is approved as an amendment, but we need your opinion on this one. It's considered moved.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll move to PV-3. Similarly, this amendment proposes to remove the powers outlined for the minister with respect to his or her ability to issue, amend, renew, suspend, or cancel permits and authorizations for the use of public land in the park for the purpose of a mining access road.

The amendment, therefore, seeks to do the exact opposite of what the bill intends and goes against the principle of this clause.

Again, members who don't agree with the clause simply should vote against it, as House of Commons Procedure and Practice, second edition, states on page 766:

An amendment to a bill that was referred to committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.

In the opinion of the chair, this amendment is contrary to the principle of the bill. Therefore, the amendment is inadmissible.

We'll move to PV-4. This amendment proposes to remove the powers outlined for the minister with respect to his or her ability to issue, amend, renew, suspend, or cancel licences for the use of waters in the park for the purpose of a mining access road.

This amendment, therefore, seeks to do the exact opposite of what the clause intends and goes against the principle of the clause.

Members who don't agree with the powers for the minister should simply vote against the clause. House of Commons Procedure and Practice, second edition, states on page 766:

An amendment to a bill that was referred to committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.

In the opinion of the chair this amendment is contrary to the principle of the bill. Therefore, the amendment is inadmissible.

Go ahead, Ms. Leslie.

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

I just have a point of clarification on these. Is it customary that the chair would move...? It seems in effect we're moving some of these amendments even though the mover is not here.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

All of the motions are deemed tabled if the mover is not here. However, the mover is not here so she cannot speak to the proposed amendments. That's why we proceeded directly to my ruling.

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

That's okay with regard to the ruling on PV-4, but the one we voted on, PV....

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Do you mean the one I didn't make a ruling on, PV-2?

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

Yes. We voted on that.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

That's correct. It's deemed tabled as an amendment.

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

It doesn't have to be moved.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

That's correct. It's deemed moved.

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

Oh, it's deemed moved. Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Sorry. I used the word “tabled”. That is my mistake. She's not a member of the committee, so she has a right to.

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NDP

Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS

That is understood. Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

We will move now to the entire clause. All in favour of adopting clause 5 as printed? We didn't make any amendments, so it's as printed.

(Clause 5 agreed to)

(On clause 6)

We have amendment PV-5 proposed. I'll give you a chance to have a quick look at that. This is deemed moved. All in favour of amendment PV-5? It is on page 5 of the amendments that are in front of you.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Because PV-5 was defeated, we can still go to amendment PV-6 and consider it. All in favour?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 6 agreed to)

Now we'll move back to the short title. Shall the short title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Shall the title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Shall the bill carry? It was not amended.

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

Shall I report the bill to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

We don't need a reprint, but I'm going to ask: shall the bill be reprinted?

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Some hon. members

No.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

That's good. You don't want a reprint. You're very cooperative today.

That seems to conclude everything. The bill has passed and we will report this to the House, hopefully tomorrow, if we can get that in.

Is it possible to have it ready for tomorrow?

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A voice

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Harold Albrecht

The meeting is adjourned.