Evidence of meeting #111 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was definition.

A recording is available from Parliament.

traditional knowledgeminutes of proceedingsamendment negatived nays8 yeas 1impact assessment

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're on NDP-2.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

No, it's NDP-1e.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, we're going to go back. We're trying to go line-by-line. I'm trying to keep up with the amendments that are on the lines.

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Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

They are lines 25 to 28.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

The top part are lines 19 to 20.

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Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

Linda is still on NDP-1, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I know, but I'm moving her to NDP-2.

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Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Are you moving me to NDP-2?

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes. We're doing the lines. We're trying not to get too far ahead of ourselves. We're doing it line by line.

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Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Okay.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Let's do it line by line, lines 19 to 20.

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Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Let's go back, then. They are lines 19 to 20?

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes.

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Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

That recommendation, again, makes clear that public participation is important at all stages of the impact assessment process.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We did have that discussion, so shall the amendment carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Fast.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Madam Chair, I want to make sure that each of these is a recorded vote.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

A recorded vote means that we have to go around the table.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Yes.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Are you requesting a recorded vote on everything that we're doing?

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Absolutely.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

This one's done, so we're going forward.

I want to make sure that we're clear. By asking for a recorded vote, you're slowing it down, which means that we're going to have less time for discussion on the amendments. That's where we're going as a result of that.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Yes.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That's fine.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

With respect, Madam Chair, the decision to restrict the time for a fulsome discussion of this bill was made by the government members of this committee, not by the remaining members of this committee.

We've already made the point that this bill, which is arguably the most important bill this Parliament will consider this session, is really being shortchanged, because of the time limitations that have been placed on witnesses, and on the discussions of the different amendments to the bill.

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The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

In response, I have tried several times to get more meetings and longer meetings, which other committees do when they have important bills in front of them. We have received some co-operation, but not as much as we may need to be more detailed. It's really up to you guys how you want to use your time in the committee, and by doing recorded votes, it's clear that we would be slowing it down. I'm sorry about that, but—

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