Evidence of meeting #112 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agency.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Olivier Champagne  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Thank you very much. I think we have clarity there.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Unfortunately, nobody, including the James Bay Cree, knows what is on schedule 2.

Are you saying here today that you're willing to put the James Bay Cree agreement on schedule 2?

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Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency

Christine Loth-Bown

I'm saying that section 4, which outlines the ability to create schedule 2, should this piece of legislation be passed, offers the opportunity to have those discussions with the James Bay Cree or the Inuvialuit or other modern treaty and land claim....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I think that's very helpful.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Well, I don't think so.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I appreciate that clarification.

Shall the amendment carry?

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I call for a recorded vote.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I said yes, because I have no assurance that it will be on schedule 2, and neither have the Cree.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Next up is amendment NDP-18. If it's adopted, then amendment LIB-5 cannot be moved, because there will be a line conflict.

Linda.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Madam Chair, the first part deals with line 7 on page 9, and it is changing “to foster sustainability” to “to ensure sustainability”.

I don't know whether you want to vote on these as we go along or as a package.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, just go ahead. Explain what you want to explain. We're going to vote on your amendment, all of it.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

This is also adding to line 9 the word “cultural” again. Then it is replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 10—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Hold on. What one are you looking at right now?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm looking at amendment NDP-18.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

So am I, but I'm not following you. I'm following “replacing line 7 on page 9 with the following”:

“(a) to ensure sustainability,” (b) by replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 10 with the following: ”(j) to ensure that an impact assessment

Is that what you are reading? Am I missing something?

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

What I did was add from the floor. I can take out the added part, if you want to put it later.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You did what?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I added that additional amendment from the floor. It's not written into the amendment.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Oh, you just need to let us know what you're doing. I wasn't aware.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Okay, I'm sorry.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

What are you doing?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I was adding to line 9 the word “culture”.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Where?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's between “social” and “and”.