Evidence of meeting #112 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agency.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Olivier Champagne  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Yes, it would say, “The agency must take into account whether the designated project is clearly linked to matters of federal interest”.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I'm still not clear exactly what the change is: “In making its decision, the agency must take into account”. Are you dropping “determine whether the designated project is clearly linked”?

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's quite a change from the way it's drafted right now. I'm trying to make sense of that.

It should say, “In making its decision, the agency must take into account whether the designated project is clearly linked to matters of federal interest”, rather than “determine”.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You're making a subamendment that makes that change, and I guess we vote on the subamendment first.

5:45 p.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

(Subamendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

The amendment stands, unamended

Shall the amendment carry?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

A recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're on to PV-18.

5:45 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

We're in the same subsection, so keep your minds on what we just looked at, that is, paragraphs (d), (a) through (g), and paragraph (c) is the one that deals with the agency's taking into account any impacts the project might have on the rights of indigenous peoples.

My amendment is to change “any adverse impact that a designated project may have” to “any direct, indirect, or cumulative impact” that the designated project may have on the rights of indigenous peoples of Canada.

Again, the language that you see there, on page 16, paragraph (c), “any adverse impact” would be changed to “any direct, indirect, or cumulative impact that the designated project”, and then the rest of the sentence continues in relation to the rights of indigenous peoples.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 1)

Next is NDP-25.

Linda.

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Guess where we are again.

This is line 9 on page 16. That is the provision where we're talking about the factors that the agency must take into account. Paragraph (c) talks about adverse impacts on the rights of indigenous peoples under section 35 of the Constitution, and I am adding in the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which seems logical.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 1)

We're moving to LIB-11.

5:50 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Madam Chair, if I may, I had submitted an amendment just after the deadline and I hoped it would be considered. It would occur at line 18 on page 16.

Oh, wait, you're still at line 10.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes, we're not there yet.

You don't want to reveal that.

Okay, we're on LIB-11.

Hang on a minute, I have PV-19.

5:50 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

That was defeated already in the cluster.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Yes.

Okay, next up is LIB-11.

Mr. Rogers.

May 9th, 2018 / 5:50 p.m.

Liberal

Churence Rogers Liberal Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL

Madam Chair, this particular amendment is in regard to the concerns expressed about the timelines and challenges that some of the stakeholders identified as to delays and so on. This amendment is being submitted in response to that, to try to deal with areas where timelines were uncertain.

I'm proposing this amendment to address these concerns.

5:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

A recorded vote.

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I have a question.