Evidence of meeting #113 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Méla
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Jeff Labonté  Assistant Deputy Minister, Major Projects Management Office, Department of Natural Resources

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Okay.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Let's just hold fire here. We're trying very hard to give everybody a chance to put forward what they want to put forward. We are on PV-49.

Ms. May.

1:05 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you.

This is to delete the appointment of a roster from the former National Energy Board, currently the Canadian energy regulator, by deleting lines 8 to 15 inclusive on page 33. We eliminate proposed subsection 47(3) in its entirety and don't replace it with anything. Let's try to get these so-called life-cycle regulators out of doing impact assessments.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I think that's clear.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We have CPC-5.3.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Again, I'm taking another kick at this particular cat. Under “Appointment from roster”, I would like (3) to read “The majority of persons appointed under—”

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're having a bit of a struggle here.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Finally some common sense.

Churence, you would support that.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I get it.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

It's always interesting to hear the opposing parties, the Liberals, the NDP, and of course the Green Party, bleat about their concern with science and expertise, yet they vote down the very participation by scientists and engineers in these panels. Now the truth finally comes out.

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Ms. Duncan, here's where you have your chance. Go ahead, please.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thank you, Madam Chair. I apologize that you don't have that in writing, but I will happily give it to the clerk. Let me read it first.

My amendment to that same provision, proposed subsection 47(3), on page 33 at line 8 would be to replace line 8 with the following, “A maximum of one of the persons appointed under para-”.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I think that's clear. These are just different ways of trying to do the same thing.

Is everybody clear on what she has suggested?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

We are looking at page 33, line 8.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're now on to LIB-33.

Mr. Amos.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

I'll speak to it.

I have before, so I won't go into any details. This is just ensuring the proper role for life-cycle regulators on the panels.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That sounds good. I think everybody knows where we're at. We've discussed this a few times.

Shall the amended amendment carry?

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 3 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

To make sure that we don't lose track of what we're doing, I would like to go to LIB-76, which we had amended. I wanted to make sure that Linda had her chance to do what she wanted to do.

We amended LIB-76. It was on page 278. I would like to go on this amended one, which is the right way to do things.

Do I have consent?

1:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?