Evidence of meeting #113 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Méla
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Jeff Labonté  Assistant Deputy Minister, Major Projects Management Office, Department of Natural Resources

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Mr. Godin.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Madam Chair, I will continue with the same issue.

Only two pieces of legislation are mentioned in the exceptions. Why are two pieces of legislation specified? Should other acts be added or should those two be removed?

12:15 p.m.

Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency

Christine Loth-Bown

No. The intent was just to specify the pieces of legislation that deal with organizations regulating the lifecycle of projects. That was specific to those pieces of legislation and there is no intent to add any others.

May 10th, 2018 / 12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Okay.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay, it's clear.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We have LIB-26.

Mr. Amos.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

We've had significant stakeholder input on the issue of one project, one review, which we're firmly in favour of, but some stakeholders, both indigenous and on the industry side, pointed out that the bill as currently drafted will prevent joint assessments with provinces, territories, and indigenous people for projects with a federal life-cycle regulator.

This amendment is going to address that particular aspect by enabling joint assessments with provinces, territories, and indigenous governing bodies. But at the same time, it's going to ensure that joint panels are established with the federal life-cycle regulators.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 8; nays 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're moving on to CPC-4.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

We'll withdraw that one.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay, we are on CPC-4.1.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Right now, the minister can enter into an agreement or arrangement with the jurisdiction but the minister is not authorized to enter into an agreement referred to in proposed subsection (1), related to the Nuclear Safety and Control Act and the Canadian energy regulator. We're suggesting that paragraph 2(a) be amended to read, “The Nuclear Safety and Control Act, unless the agreement or arrangement is in relation to a uranium or thorium mine or a mill”.

This will make the—

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

My apologies. I realize CPC-4.1 cannot be moved because there will be a line conflict. That happened on LIB-26. If you look, it's 19 to 22 on page 29 and that is right where we are.

We're on to LIB-27. If it's adopted, PV-44.1 cannot be moved because there will be a line conflict.

Mr. Rogers.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Churence Rogers Liberal Bonavista—Burin—Trinity, NL

Provisions in this bill establish timelines to provide for more timely assessments. The spirit of this amendment is to ensure that we establish base timelines. In this case, the minister must make decisions within 45 days.

I think other than that establishing that particular timeline is pretty straightforward.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That's unanimous. That was our first one, I think.

Well done, Churence.

Now we have PV-45. Ms. May.

12:25 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you.

This is deleting what we find in proposed paragraphs 41(2)(b) and 41(2)(c), which deal with the energy regulators and their role on panels.

Again, this is something that's come up quite often. I have other amendments that relate to it as well. But there's a pretty strong consensus from the expert panels that we do not want any role for these regulators on the review panel. So, it reads:

Restriction

(2) Subsection (1) is subject to the following sections:

Again, there are additional amendments that are consistent with this.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

On PV-46, we have Ms. May.

12:25 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you very much.

Again, these are consequential amendments for ensuring that we don't have energy regulators playing roles on review panels.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Shall the amendment carry?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])