Evidence of meeting #113 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Sébastien Rochon  Counsel, Department of Justice
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Méla
Brent Parker  Director, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs Division, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Jeff Labonté  Assistant Deputy Minister, Major Projects Management Office, Department of Natural Resources

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

So let's get into the details.

Do I have consent to go to LIB-33?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Sure, absolutely.

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I have consent, so let's go to LIB-33 and have Mike introduce it.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

No, the amendment is introduced by Mr. Amos. I am introducing the subamendment.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That's fine.

Mr. Amos, you're introducing it, please.

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Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

In relation to our LIB-33, we're talking here about avoiding the majority of life-cycle regulators on panels, so that's going to address the concerns of many stakeholders.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're on page 33, Linda, line 15.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I am looking at it and I want to speak to the way they're amending it, and I'm saying that it's not making sense to me. If they can make sense of it, I have no problem with what they're trying to do, but I'm looking....

Nobody has yet spoken to how...on line 15, where are the words, “the persons”?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

They're adding a paragraph.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It says, “before the words, the persons”. Where does it say “the persons”?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It says, “after line 15 on page 33 the following: “(4) The persons appointed from the roster must not constitute a...”. They're adding a section after that line 15.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

That's not what I have written here.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That's what's written here.

What LIB—?

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's whatever amendment LIB-3 was given to me.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, that's a subamendment. We're looking at the LIB-33 on page 153 of your amendment binder.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

There are two LIB-33s, then. Is that it?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No. There's a subamendment to the amendment. We're on the amendment.

Linda, are you with us? We're on the LIB-33 amendment.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I am now. There are two LIB-33s. Okay.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It has been introduced on the floor now by Mr. Amos, and Mr. Bossio would like to make a subamendment, which we distributed with the one we did for LIB-30.

Go ahead, Mike.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Once again, it's the same idea. We also want to limit it so that the regulator will not be the chair of a review panel either.

We're proposing, therefore, to amend amendment LIB-33 by inserting at the beginning of its proposed new subsection 47(4), before the words “The persons”, the following words:

The chairperson must not be appointed from the roster.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay. This is the same explanation we've had before.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

And I raised my objection before. I had an amendment at line 8, and this amendment is at line 15.

Isn't that the way it works?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It is. I'm just asking for unanimous consent to...and you said yes, so we're looking at this one.

Yes, you're right, because line—

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Never mind; we're changing the rules. We're supposed to go in order of the clauses.