Let me start by saying, just building on that galvanized.... On setting these targets of 5% and 10%, I would say the 10% is going to be easier to achieve than the 5% by next year.
Our longer-term objective is those 13 bioregions and to establish MPA networks in those 13 bioregions that achieve a number of objectives: that they're connected; that they're related; that they're replicated; and that we have a different set, a broad set, of protections in those areas. Once we have that in all 13 bioregions.... That's our plan.
The great benefit of the 5% and 10% objectives is they are gathering the community in a way it hasn't been gathered before. We believe we can ride that to achieve the longer-term objective. As we're moving ahead on the 5% and 10%, we're talking to everybody, as I am here, about that longer-term objective. It's certainly about getting to the 5% and 10%, but that contributes to that longer-term objective, which we think is the right way forward in terms of MPA networks, different types of protections, with all of the principles associated with that.