Evidence of meeting #132 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chair  Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)
Carol Najm  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services and Financial Branch, Department of the Environment
Alan Kerr  Vice-President, Corporate Services, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Christine Loth-Bown  Vice-President, Policy Development Sector, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency
Julie Dzerowicz  Davenport, Lib.
Mary Taylor  Director General, Environmental Protection Operations, Department of the Environment
Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office, Department of the Environment
Mark Cauchi  Director General, Protected Areas, Department of the Environment
Wayne Stetski  Kootenay—Columbia, NDP
Sue Milburn-Hopwood  Assistant Deputy Minister, Canadian Wildlife Service, Department of the Environment
Mike Lake  Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC
Mark Warawa  Langley—Aldergrove, CPC

4:35 p.m.

Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

Yes. Just give me one second to explain.

Then we will deal with the Parks Canada portion of the supplementary estimates (A) next Tuesday. That's the flow that—

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

I actually have a point of order.

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

What is the date by which these have to be reported back?

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

It's a floating deadline. The report back has to happen by the final opposition day in this session. We've had six of seven already. We don't know when that seventh one will be, but in all likelihood, given where we're at in the schedule, we're anticipating that it will be next week.

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

Why are we anticipating that it will be next week?

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

I don't know. It's—

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

It has to be by when? When is the time slot that it has to be determined by?

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

It's December 10.

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

Right. So—

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

We went to the minister's office and we gave her four hearings. The end of November was when we were looking at likely needing to have this done. That is the time frame that we asked for her availability, and we were told that this month she was not available.

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

But we only pitched the times that we have meetings scheduled as opportunities.

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

Correct.

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

I would suggest that as a committee—this is the environment minister—we should be prepared to meet at any time, if she has any availability between, say, now and December 3, whenever it fits into her schedule, 24-7. I don't care. I'll come here at two in the morning if that's the only window she has in her schedule.

It's a pretty significant department. We have this pretty significant role, and she has a pretty significant position. I think it's incumbent upon us as the environment committee to to make ourselves available more, beyond just the four two-hour windows. Surely at some point between now and the end of the month, or whatever date we pick, she'll be able to make herself available to the environment committee of the House of Commons to meet for a couple of hours.

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

I hear what you're saying.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

She's met with us six times. She makes herself very available to this committee.

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Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, CPC

Mike Lake

Is Darren on the list?

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

At this point, it's only a point of order. We have no speaking list.

Is it a point of order?

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Mark Warawa Langley—Aldergrove, CPC

I'd like to speak to the point of order that's on the table.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

I don't think the point of order is open to debate.

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

Do you have a point of order, Mr. Warawa?

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Langley—Aldergrove, CPC

Mark Warawa

I request to speak to the point of order, so I'm the next person on the list.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

Can we ask our—

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Mr. John Aldag (Cloverdale—Langley City, Lib.)

The Chair

You can raise a point of order. You can't speak to a point of order. Is that correct?

We seem to be moving into debate, and perhaps into the motion we had about having the minister come.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Chair, I cannot hear the interpretation.