It's interesting that you're saying “world-class forest management”. We believe that in Canada we have world class. If you look at certification, we're the best in the world in terms of third party certification. We do believe that managed forests are very well managed, and this has been demonstrated through third party certification. That's one thing.
Second, around fires and the role of fires, mainly we manage fire in this country, but it varies from one province to another. North of certain limits, we just let it go, because we cannot manage everything, and there are big fires. South of that line, it's basically focusing on trying to reduce the impact on municipalities, communities, and remote communities. That's the first focus. In some cases, this has been successful, and in some, not that successful.
At FPInnovations, we have a program in Alberta testing equipment but also a FireSmart program in some municipalities and some regions in order to manage vegetation around those settlements, so there's a way of doing it, and—