If we as a society say that we want to keep plastics out of the waste stream and out of the environment and we put these policies in place, those companies will respond to the market demand for more recycling by making the investments they need to make. We talked about how to get capital to them. Another thing you can do is to have accelerated depreciation on capital, which is very helpful, and then create demand for what they're producing and create supply by having these EPR systems that produce clean streams of material that can go to these recycling facilities.
If you start to say you want low-carbon plastics and you put a value on those by saying we're going to incentivize the use of renewable plastics as a feedstock, Carbon Engineering will stop producing diesel fuel and will start producing methanol that can be used to produced ethylene.
Again it's about creating demand for recycling activities and for what recycling activities produce.