I think my industry colleagues have a better sense of where the stuff goes. To be honest, it's a bit of a black box. And that's one of the other things we would like to bring to this committee. We need more transparency and data to understand what kinds of plastics are coming into Canada, what the recycling rates are, and we want to talk about materials.
There are also some products that are problematic because they get contaminated with food. We would like to see that transparency as well over time so that we can set targets and move towards them, but we have the data that we need to understand where the problems lie.