Evidence of meeting #30 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was parks.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Roger Hunka  Director, Intergovernmental Affairs, Maritime Aboriginal Peoples Council
Anna Metaxas  Professor, As an Individual
Chris Miller  National Conservation Biologist, Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society
Karen Jans  Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency
Kevin McNamee  Director, Protected Areas Establishment Branch, Parks Canada Agency
Joshua McNeely  Ikanawtiket Executive Director, Maritime Aboriginal Peoples Council

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You have 30 seconds.

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Ms. Jans, you mentioned 10 years for an additional protected area that's, I think, already being managed as adjacent lands.

Why is it going to take 10 years? Is it a legislative piece that's needed? Is it a consultative piece?

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

No. Greenwich is part of the national park, and it takes that period of time to work through the legislation. We have to get it through the gazetting process.

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

So if there is political will, it could be accelerated.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

Oh, absolutely.

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Liberal

John Aldag Liberal Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Okay.

I'll keep going.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, you're done.

It's really hard. We have so much we want to ask you, and there's just not enough time.

Mr. Shields is next.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Let me pick up on the issue Mr. Aldag was on. If I can clarify it—

Thank you for being here, by the way. I've been in that park long before you were born. I'm an old guy.

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An hon. member

You are old.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

No, you're not.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Oh, yes, I am. I have a scar I got as a six-year-old from a jellyfish off the beach. I've carried it for many years. That was 1959, Madam.

I thought you talked about that plan having been ongoing for some time, when you talked about the 10-year plan. You've been working at this....

4:55 p.m.

Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

No, we are in the process right now of creating a new 10-year management plan for Prince Edward Island National Park. The current one expires this coming year, and so we're in the process of creating a new 10-year one.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Okay, back up. You're saying you have started a process.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

Yes, we have.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

How long ago was that?

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

It was last year.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Okay.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

We did a state of the park report in 2015, we started the process this past year, we've been going through several consultations, and we're in the last phases of public consultation.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

Great.

Concerning the resources you might have used, such as a consultation process or science, can you tell me a little about it?

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

First of all, we do what's called a “state of the park report” in which we do a situational analysis of where we are standing right now and what our indicators are like on the natural side, the cultural side, the externalization side, and in our relationships with first nations, etc.

We do that snapshot and then we work with the stakeholders and communities, as well as internally with our specialists, to identify where we want to go. What we have done here is essentially create a vision for the park for the next 15 years, and we've done it collaboratively with the communities.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

You're saying that you're just about finished that process.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

We're very close. We're not finished, but we've gone back out now.... Actually, next week we'll be going back out with a draft.

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Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

So you've had the resources you've needed to get it done.

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Field Unit Superintendent Prince Edward Island, Parks Canada Agency

Karen Jans

Absolutely, yes.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Martin Shields Conservative Bow River, AB

That's great to hear. Thank you.

Moving on to Mr. Miller, you talked about quality versus quantity. I think we've heard numbers for months and months on end, percentages. Can you describe to me, although I think I've heard it, what's important to you, quality or quantity, and how you would define the difference?