Evidence of meeting #89 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was right.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Legislative Clerk, House of Commons
Paula Brand  Director General, Sustainability Directorate, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of the Environment
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Thomas Bigelow

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

Ms. May also had some amendments. Was that addressed?

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

They're coming.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

All right.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Did you think it was on NDP-8?

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

No, I didn't suggest—

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Thank you.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Yes.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It's the same thing somewhere else.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

She has it further on.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Yes.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okey-dokey. We're on NDP-9.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

In this amendment, I simply put in a time period. I am totally open, however, to a different time period.

When the commissioner appeared before us on Tuesday, she was very clear that she is struggling with the number of entities she has to review. All of them come in at different times and are prepared in different ways with different frameworks. She said it would be immeasurably helpful to her if all entities had to submit their strategies on the same date.

Right now they can submit them any time within a year, so I am proposing that we amend that clause to give a specified time after the FSDS is tabled in Parliament for when the entities have to submit their strategies. I am totally open to any reasonable time period one might want to put in. I put in six months, but it could be 12 months or eight months. It's whatever people think is reasonable.

She was clear in her testimony that she would like to have the law changed to require all entities to submit their strategies by the same date so that she could compare them.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I'm not sure that your amendment actually does what you're talking about. I hear you, but what I hear is not what it meant to me when I read it. There's a way to do it differently, but that isn't what this says.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Right now it says within a year—

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Right

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

It says it's any time within a year after the FSDS is tabled—

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I know, but if you want it to—

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

This says within six months. It means any time within the six months.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

It's not really getting to where she wanted it to be.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

How else would you word it?

I've got another way to word it.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Who wants to talk to it? Obviously I've started a debate.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

You did.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Why don't you finish the debate?

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I was suggesting that what you've proposed here doesn't meet what I thought the commissioner was asking for. She was asking for—

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

You're entering into the debate.