That's an excellent and challenging question. This obviously is a very complex institutional environment that we work in.
People have mentioned the importance of multi-stakeholder collaboration. I look at some of the examples we've had in British Columbia dealing with things like the War in the Woods, where we brought all of the different groups together, including first nations, sitting around a table for sometimes two to three years, and in these cases coming to consensus agreements on how to move forward in a sustainable way.
It's certainly possible to do. It has to be a multi-stakeholder dialogue. In many cases, such as on the pipeline issues, which are paramount in Canada, we're now using adversarial approaches, where we pit parties against each other in quasi-judicial hearings. We have to move beyond that. We have to go to a collaborative approach involving all the multi-stakeholders. We had a national round table, which was helpful in this process. It would be good to bring some of those kinds of multi-stakeholder mechanisms back together.
Germany also has a federal system, as we know. They have achieved, in our view, pretty good integration between what's happening nationally and all the different levels of government in Germany. There are models to look at there as well.