Evidence of meeting #90 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was regulations.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk, Journals Branch, House of Commons
Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office , Department of the Environment
Joyce Henry  Director General, Office of Energy Efficiency, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Frank DesRosiers  Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Energy Technology Sector, Department of Natural Resources
John Moffet  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Matt Parry  Director General, Strategic Policy Directorate, Department of the Environment

9:05 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I will give unanimous consent. This is a matter that I raised when the Liberals asked for one provision only to be changed from “environment” to “sustainable development”. I had said that's a problem because the language I had used was consistent with the rest of the act. It would have been a good opportunity to change it all.

I will give unanimous consent on one condition, that the committee agrees to adopt just one part of one of my amendments. That is the amendment in clause 3—

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Linda.

9:05 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Let me put it on the record.

9:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You can't do a conditional unanimous consent. We really appreciate unanimous consent for consistency.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

That's not in order, right?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, it's not in order.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Neither is this change. That's why you need unanimous consent.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, it's—

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Which is why he's asking for it. If you don't want to give it, just say no.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Listen, what we're trying to do here is have a properly drafted bill. We've been made aware that there are inconsistencies in it. It's not good legislation. We are all good legislators, I hope. We're all learning to be good legislators. Some are already good legislators. It was missed. I think it is important for consistency. I would really appreciate it if the committee gave unanimous consent.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I would like to speak to this request.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You were speaking to it, but you were asking for a conditional unanimous consent. We can't really allow that.

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

They can refuse it.

The Liberals are asking for unanimous consent to go back in the bill. I'm asking for their agreement, if I agree with that, that they will also agree to go back in the bill for something I'm requesting.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

To talk about it?

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

William Amos Liberal Pontiac, QC

Why don't we have a vote on it? Then we'll see if we have unanimous consent on the latter point.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Linda is saying that, for her unanimous consent, she would like consent to consider something that she would like to raise as well. She's tying it, but I'm not going to do that. What I'm going to ask is.... what Linda is asking....

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

We'll entertain it.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I think we're going to entertain. That's what she's asking. If she entertains our unanimous consent, will we entertain hers? I think the answer is....

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

I will.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Let's entertain it. I want to hear what she has to say.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Okay, so we have unanimous consent to reconsider clauses 4 and 7.

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Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Do you want to explain?

9:10 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

We'll vote on this, and then you agree to....

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We have unanimous consent to reconsider.

9:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

I would like to put forward—