Evidence of meeting #90 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was regulations.

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MPs speaking

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Olivier Champagne  Procedural Clerk, Journals Branch, House of Commons
Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office , Department of the Environment
Joyce Henry  Director General, Office of Energy Efficiency, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Frank DesRosiers  Assistant Deputy Minister, Innovation and Energy Technology Sector, Department of Natural Resources
John Moffet  Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Matt Parry  Director General, Strategic Policy Directorate, Department of the Environment

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

December 12th, 2017 / 8:50 a.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Madam Chair, I rise on a point of order following correspondence and distribution of documents in only one of the two official languages by you on December 7 and by my colleague across the way, Mr. Amos, in November.

I will refer to a motion put forward by Mike Bossio on February 4, 2016.

I would also like to move another motion. May I ask for the unanimous consent of my colleagues so that I can put it forward?

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Could you explain? There's a document that was distributed, but it wasn't distributed as part of the committee. It was distributed by an individual member for interest—

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

—at this table.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

—but not as part of committee information.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I'm sorry, but that's part of the committee. Come on. Even Gerretsen's laughing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

We're missing translation. Hang on a minute. I'll just say that again.

If it was the letter that Mr. Amos asked to distribute at the committee, it wasn't committee work. It wasn't from the committee. It was just a member asking to distribute a letter. I did not know what was in the letter when he distributed it, and as soon as he did, we basically said it's something between you and committee members. It wasn't committee business.

I want to make sure that was clear. I never saw that as committee business, and it wasn't intended to be committee business. I didn't know what it was until he put it in front of us. It was not committee business.

8:50 a.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Madam Chair, a motion was adopted on February 4, 2016, that only the clerk of the committee is authorized to distribute documents, including motions, to committee members, and all documents distributed to committee members must be available in both official languages. This was adopted on February 4, 2016. That's the first thing.

The second is the correspondence that the chair sent to all committee members. Although the correspondence was addressed to all MPs, it was in only one language—English. I have a copy of the correspondence you sent to us last week. I won't refer to the content of the correspondence, but unfortunately—

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

That was last week?

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Yes, last week.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

What was it?

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Do you understand?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You're referring to an email that I send out just to let you know, and I didn't do it in two official languages.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Fair enough. It was just a note, but that's fine. I get that. I won't do that again. I just wanted to give people a heads-up.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I know it wasn't ill-intentioned.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

No, I get it.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I'm working very hard to learn English. However, considering the rules governing the committee, both official languages must be used.

Receiving documentation in only one official language prevents me from doing an effective job and makes my job as a parliamentarian harder. That's why this morning, I would like to move the following motion:

That all correspondence distributed in any form by the members of the Committee, including the Chair of the Committee, to the other members of the Committee be presented in both official languages.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

Fair enough.

Is there any discussion?

He's giving notice of a motion. I don't mind. If you want, we can deal with it right here.

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

If he's giving notice, let's just give ourselves time to look at his motion.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I'm fine with the content of it, but I'm hearing the feedback as, “Thank you for the notice and we'll discuss it when we come back.”

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Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

It's a given, anyway.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

I know, he's just putting it on the table. I thought we could deal with it.

Ms. Duncan.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Before Mr. Godin goes on to other business, whatever it was that was circulated was circulated when I wasn't here. If it's something that a committee member wants us all to think about, I would appreciate receiving it, whatever was circulated that apparently was or wasn't committee business.

8:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte

You have actually seen it several times. It was just a preliminary copy of the letter on protected spaces.