Evidence of meeting #1 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger

12:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I have already given notice of these motions and I believe that Mr. Roger has them. Furthermore, I believe that the two motions have been translated. Therefore, I am presenting these two motions.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Mr. Roger.

12:10 p.m.

The Clerk

Good afternoon, Ms. Pauzé. We do have both motions.

We will be circulating them. They are in both official languages right now, I think.

I think that at this time the committee would like to know which motion you wish to present first. It can then make a decision and vote. At that point you can move your second motion, which will then be voted on. We want to know which motion you wish to present first.

12:10 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I'm sorry, but I did not hear what Mr. Roger said. Perhaps he was not speaking loud enough. I don't know why, but I did not hear any of his clarifications.

12:10 p.m.

The Clerk

That's all right, I can repeat what I said.

At this point, the committee would like to know which motion you would like to debate first. After the debate, there will be a decision. The committee will then be able to deal with your second motion, which will also be voted on. We can only deal with one motion at a time. We must vote on a given motion before moving on to the next one.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

On a point of order, I also want to give notice of a motion that I have. I'm thinking that we have gone from getting our structure put into place and maybe we could get these motions over to a subcommittee. We could have a whole list of motions for the subcommittee to consider so that we're not picking and choosing before we have all of our motions on the floor.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I agree with you, Mr. Longfield. It's confusing everybody. We have not all received everybody's motions. We'd like to at least have a look at the motion in order to ask intelligent questions.

Mr. Albas.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I have a point of order. We're clearly in committee business. The member has a right to have the motion tabled. I believe you've said that it's in order. For the purposes of today, I would like to know if the motion on coal is what we will be discussing first. Then we can separate out the second motion by the member.

I recognize that some members may find this process confusing, but committee business is exactly that. She does have a right, I believe, to table her motions and have them debated.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I don't think Mr. Longfield was denying her right to present the motions. We are in committee business, but we still haven't gotten clarity on what motion Madame Pauzé wants us to discuss.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, quite honestly, as the chair, you should just say that you're ruling the second one out of order because we can only do one thing at a time. That would be reasonable, in my opinion. But then, again, I'm not the chair.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you, Mr. Albas. Thank you for telling me what my job should be.

Madame Pauzé has the right to present two motions, but she also has the right to say which motion she would like us to reflect on. You might want to present three motions; I won't rule you out of order. I think Madame Pauzé should be given the opportunity to tell us clearly whether she wants the first motion or the second motion.

Ms. Pauzé, please choose which motion you would like to present first.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I would like to first present the motion on zero-emission legislation. It is the second one I read, the one that ends “and that to do so, the Committee examine the feasibility of zero-emission federal legislation, that a report be presented to the House of Commons and that four meetings be devoted to it.”

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

On her first motion on zero emissions, are there any questions for Madame Pauzé?

Mr. Albas.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I am sorry, Madame Pauzé, to ask the question again. Could you read the motion out so that I know clearly which issue we're debating? Both of them did relate to emissions, and I don't want to be debating the wrong motion.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Madame Pauzé, you're on mute.

Could you please reread your motion?

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Okay.

I will read it slowly.

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development undertake a study in connection with the desire, expressed in the Speech from the Throne, to put in place a plan that will make it possible to surpass Canada's climate objectives and that to do so, the Committee examine the feasibility of zero-emission federal legislation—

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Madame Pauzé, bring your mike closer to your mouth. The interpreter cannot hear you and therefore cannot translate.

Thank you.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

All right.

Should I start over?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Yes, please.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Can the interpreters hear me clearly?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Can interpretation hear her?

We have lost interpretation too.

Mr. Roger.

12:15 p.m.

The Clerk

I have the motions in English—

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Okay.

I believe the Clerk has sent the motions, is that right?

12:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, I sent the motions in French and in English.

All the members should have both motions in their P9 accounts, but whatever the case may be, I have the motions in French and in English.

I can read both versions, if you'd like. I'm just offering my help.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Madame Pauzé, would you mind if the clerk read out your motion, because you are having some technical difficulties?

She is in agreement, Mr. Roger, so can you read it, please?

Now you are on mute, Mr. Roger.