I think people should think about the economic opportunities for net zero. Let me take the automotive sector as an example. Gasoline sales have peaked in North America. This is a declining industry. We need to be building EVs and autonomous vehicles and developing the technologies of the future.
There's huge potential here. If we wait five years, we'll be buying everything from China and from the U.S. We have to get ahead of these changes. The key things now are transport, buildings and decarbonizing the electricity sector really fast, which are all bangs for the buck. There are emerging technologies like hydrogen where we could also play an important role if we act quickly.
One of the other panellists mentioned that we produce lots of hydrogen. Yes, it's dirty, grey hydrogen mostly, except for the project that used to be called Shell Quest. Blue hydrogen could play a role as well as green hydrogen, but we should not be focused on just dealing with the emissions of present oil and gas extraction but also on building a net-zero economy for the future.