Evidence of meeting #37 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Angela Crandall
John Moffet  Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Vincent Ngan  Director General, Horizontal Policy, Engagement and Coordination, Department of the Environment

6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes, that's right.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We had finished with clause 13.

6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes, that's true.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. Maybe I'm the confused one here, so I don't mind if you tell me that I'm wrong, but I believe we agreed to the amendment of Mr. Saini. I don't believe we voted on clause 13 as amended.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We had already voted on clause 13.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Oh. His was new clause 13.1.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's right.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Just so that I have it straight, this exists outside clause 13.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes. It's new clause 13.1.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

By adopting the amendment, we don't need to do a further one, because there was no clause 13.1 in the original legislation.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Right.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Thank you for explaining that, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry to cause any confusion.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Madam Pauzé, does that answer your question as well?

6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes, I am with you.

Amendment BQ-15 will be introduced and debated, correct?

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, you can introduce it, but I wanted to read some notes before you do so.

6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Okay.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I hope I am entitled to do this. Perhaps I should leave it for you.

Ms. Thivierge, can I read some notes before Ms. Pauzé introduces her amendment?

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Could you restart, Mr. Chair, so that we all can hear? I was still thinking about the previous one.

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I'm coming back to you.

Sorry, colleagues, we just have to print something. I believe that there's a bit of a mix-up here. It will only take a second, and we'll get back to it. Just please bear with me.

Colleagues, I apologize. These are the inconveniences of a Zoom Parliament.

We're at BQ-15, and there's a slight change. Just like in a court of law, forget everything I said about BQ-15.

I will make a few comments before I ask Madam Pauzé to present her amendment.

If BQ-15 is adopted, PV-22, G-10, CPC-13, G-11 and PV-23 cannot be moved, as they amend the same line. Also, if BQ-15 is defeated, BQ-16, BQ-17, BQ-30 become moot as it would be inconsistent with the decision made on BQ-15 not to include the annual progress report in the bill.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

Chair, I'm sorry to interrupt. You went too fast.

Can you say all those things again, please?

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Sure. As a matter of fact, I can.

If BQ-15 is adopted—and Madam Pauzé will present BQ-15 in one moment—PV-22, G-10, CPC-13, G-11 and PV-23 cannot be moved as they amend the same line. Also, if BQ-15 is defeated, BQ-16, BQ-17 and BQ-30 become moot as it would be inconsistent with the decision made on BQ-15 not to include the annual progress report in the bill.

I'm sure we'll come back to this in time, but I'll now invite Madam Pauzé to table BQ-15, if she wishes to.

6:25 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I certainly do want to, Mr. Chair, except that I do not agree with your decision to include amendment BQ-30 in the list, because it refers to the Commissioner of the Environment. However, amendment BQ-15, which deals with clause 14, refers to the Minister. It's not the same thing.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Let's take a moment to check.

You are good at following all this.

6:30 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Thank you, that's nice.

6:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Ms. Pauzé, you are right, but there is a little hitch.

You can introduce amendment BQ-30, but you are going to have to amend it, because it mentions the annual progress report.