Evidence of meeting #116 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I call this meeting to order.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Mr. Chair, I would like to move the following motion:

That the committee undertake an in-depth study of the impacts of an emergency decree on the lumber and forestry industry and that this study focus on identifying: The socio-economic impact of an emergency decree on communities across Quebec, given the economic dependence of many communities, such as Sacré‑Coeur, on the lumber and forestry industry; The impact of an emergency decree on lumber and the forestry industry, given that the Quebec government has assessed that at minimum 2,000 jobs will be impacted; and A plan to protect caribou with minimal disruption to the lumber and forestry industries and Quebecer's livelihoods. To this end, that the committee hold a minimum of 6 meeting and that the committee invite the Minister of Environment and Climate Change of Canada, Minister of Energy and Natural Resources of Canada, Minister of Transport, and Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry for a minimum of 2 hours respectively, with priority given to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change of Canada within seven days of the motion being passed, as well as: Invite the Boisaco Group for 2 hours with other major forestry groups, companies, unions representing impacted workers, representatives of the First Nations concerned, community representatives and any other witnesses the committee deems necessary; Order that the government produce all socio-economic analysis completed on the impact of the federal decree, including all projected job loss analysis, within 14 days of the motion being adopted; The committee write a letter to natural resource committee asking the chair to immediately recall the committee in order to plan a study on the federal decree; Committee denounces federal government interference in provincial jurisdictions; Report to the House that the federal government immediately abandon all plans to impose the federal decree in order to save jobs and resource development in regions of Quebec; and Report its findings and recommendations to the House.

Mr. Chair, we know that nearly 2,000 people work in the forestry industry—

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

First of all, we have not received this motion. I hate it when we start discussing things like this.

Secondly, in the world I come from, the union world, someone who submits a proposal has the floor to present it. It may not be the same thing here on a committee or in the House of Commons, but there is already a motion on the table. There are very similar things in what Mr. Deltell has just presented, and amendments may be necessary, but I find it hard to understand why we are not discussing the motion for which we travelled here today.

Is it normal for us to all of a sudden do something other than what we were asked to do?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That's a good question. I can't say whether it's normal, because this is the first experience I've had of a meeting requested under Standing Order 106(4). I believe that Mr. Deltell can move his motion because it relates to the subject we intend to discuss today.

I think we need to debate it and decide what to do with it, do we not, Madam Clerk? Ms. Pauzé can then move her own motion. I don't think Ms. Pauzé's motion takes precedence over Mr. Deltell's, but we'll suspend for a moment to confirm that.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

I would like to speak first, Mr. Chair.

Since you gave my colleague the floor and he introduced his motion, his motion does indeed take precedence. The debate must be on the motion before us that is related to the subject for which this meeting was requested pursuant to Standing Order 106(4).

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

You're probably right, but I just want to confirm that with the clerk.

She is confirming that Mr. Deltell has the right to move his motion. We'll open it up for debate. Then we can debate the other one.

Mr. Drouin, I've added you to the speaking list. I assume you want to speak to the motion.

Francis Drouin Liberal Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

I do, yes. Out of respect for our Bloc Québécois colleagues, since they are the ones who—

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Mr. Chair, if we're debating a motion—

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Hold on.

Mr. Deltell, do you have a point of order?

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Yes. From the moment I introduced a motion and started talking about it after I indicated that I wanted to talk about it, I believe it goes without saying that I can continue talking about it. The mover of the motion has to start the debate.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Have you moved it?

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Yes, but I started talking about it, and then I was interrupted—

Alexandre Boulerice NDP Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. Hold on.

We're off to a good start.

On the speaking list, we have Mr. Deltell, who has just spoken, as well as Ms. Pauzé and Mr. Boulerice. We also have Mr. Martel and Mr. van Koeverden.

A voice

It's the other way around.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's Mr. van Koeverden and then Mr. Martel.

Mr. Deltell has moved his motion and he can debate it.

Are there any other points of order before Mr. Deltell begins debate?

Alexandre Boulerice NDP Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Mr. Chair, I think my point of order takes precedence over all other speakers.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, Mr. Boulerice.

Ms. Pauzé, do you also have a point of order?

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

No, it's about something else.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Mr. Boulerice, you have the floor.

Alexandre Boulerice NDP Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

It's just a matter of procedure, Mr. Chair.

I don't think we should debate Mr. Deltell's motion, because it hasn't been distributed to committee members in both official languages.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It has just been sent out in both official languages. So you should have received both versions. If not, you will be receiving them shortly. So—

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.