I do unequivocally believe that we have no alternative to the use of oil and gas to supply energy for the population of eight billion people, and that we need to capture the emissions from the use of that oil and gas and sequester it to meet our net-zero goals. Power generation, cement production, steel production and fertilizer production are all based on fossil fuels, and so too are renewables. Solar panels are made from coal. Wind turbines are made from coal. This is just a reality.
If we are unable to accept that proposition and we constrain the ability to supply reliable energy, then Putin can weaponize energy. He can weaponize food, which is what he's doing by restricting exports of fertilizer.
This idea that we can just simply eliminate fossil fuels will result in a lot of problems, so Canada's role is to be able to deliver energy while we reduce our emissions using a proven technology, nascently deployed—proven, though. We need to establish that carbon capture and storage is a global-scale solution to emissions.