On the point of government spending and creating markets, something like “buy clean”...although I understand your point about not being concerned about government spending.... A lot of this is our ability to leverage spending that is already happening in other spaces—spending on infrastructure, building bridges, building roads. We're going to be spending this money. If you bring in that “buy clean” element, which through a lot of analysis is adding only a 1% to 2% increase to the overall project costs, you could be buying significant volumes of cleaner steel and cleaner cement. Once you start building that market out and showing that there's a demand, a clear buyer, those products become more mainstream. Then the private sector comes in and starts buying those at greater volumes in and of itself, because it becomes the default in the market.
There's an opportunity for the government to leverage existing spending and to also leverage private industry to expand its own use of clean materials. As I mentioned, there's also a real clear benefit to Canada's producers. As we mentioned in multiple places, our cleaner grid means we're already among some of the lowest-carbon producers of lots of these materials anyway. There's a clear advantage there to supporting Canadian businesses.
On the point—