Evidence of meeting #51 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Longpré
Laura Farquharson  Director General, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We now move on to amendment NDP‑38.

Hold on a moment.

Okay, I'm of the opinion, or I've been told, that the committee would in a sense be contradicting itself if we went ahead with it, and we can't allow that, so we'll have to skip over NDP-38, but I don't see any objection on the part of Ms. Collins.

So we will go to amendment PV‑23.

Ms. May, the floor is yours.

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This is another amendment that is part of my efforts to correct a flaw in this bill, which eliminates the single list of toxic substances.

The schedule has always been a list of toxic substances in one schedule. This law—Bill S-5—weakens the whole scheme of the legislation by creating two lists.

My amendment here would not make sense at this point. Were I a member of the committee, I would ask to withdraw it, but I'm here, as you'll all recall, due to the motion you passed, which—I hope you understand—I really hate. I wish that I weren't subjected to this instead of being allowed to have my rights and present amendments at report stage.

That said, I expect this amendment to be defeated.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Thank you, Ms. May.

Is there debate on this amendment, or do we just go to a vote?

Go ahead, Madam Pauzé.

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

I would like to ask a question instead, Mr. Chair.

I didn't quite understand what the leader of the Green Party said. Am I to understand that, because the committee voted against all the other Green Party amendments, this amendment is no longer valid because the list no longer exists?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

I think it's because we voted against keeping the list of toxic substances. While we agree with the way the lists in Bill S‑5 are presented, we cannot agree to go back to the list of toxic substances.

I think I got that right, Ms. May.

Ms. Collins, you have the floor.

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

I was just going to say that this amendment no longer makes sense since the rest of the amendments were voted down. I'll be voting in favour of it because I voted in favour of the other amendments. I support the spirit of this, but I also expect it to be defeated.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We need to be more positive in this committee, I think. We'll go to the vote, I guess.

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The amendment is defeated. That brings us to G-14.4.

Who is presenting that?

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Are we on NDP-39, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

No, we're on.... Well, what about G-14.4?

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Mr. Chair, I also have G-14.4 by Mr. Duguid.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes, maybe it was sent.... It wasn't in the original package.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Alexandre Longpré

I think it was.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It was...?

Okay. We have G-14.1. We have G-14.2, and yes, it's at page 120.1 in your package.

Who's presenting that?

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

Mr. Chair, I'm getting some advice that we've already passed this amendment. Is that correct? Was it on February 16?

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We'll just take a little break here and figure this out.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We have one more amendment, G-14.4, and then we'll go to whether we pass clause 53.

Mr. Duguid, go ahead.

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

Mr. Chair, there seems to be some uncertainty here, so why don't we pass it again?

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

I'll move G-14.4. I think everyone has the language, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. Do you have anything you want to add?

Terry Duguid Liberal Winnipeg South, MB

No. I think it's clear.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's self-evident. Okay.

Is there anyone else? Would anyone else like to speak to this?

Go ahead, Mr. Kurek.

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Thanks, Chair.

This is adding additional reporting or is clarifying, I think, reporting requirements. I'm wondering if the officials could weigh in on the addition of proposed section 317.3, just to expand as to whether there are additional reporting requirements or if it complements current reporting requirements, to determine where this is at.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Who would like to take that question? Is it Ms. Farquharson?

Laura Farquharson Director General, Legislative and Regulatory Affairs, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment

Yes. Thank you for clarifying what the amendment is.

It's the addition of a proposed section 317.3 and a requirement to include in the annual report a report about the names of substances or living organisms that have been unmasked. The discretionary power—and now the partial requirement—to unmask names is new. That was added by Bill S-5. This would be just an explicit new reporting requirement.