Evidence of meeting #74 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was power.
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NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
These are the options we have. I'm just trying to help you out, Chair.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
No, I agree, and I appreciate that. It's very helpful, actually.
There's a grammatical problem here. Let's forget about who we're inviting, who thinks we should invite them or not, or who thinks we shouldn't. We cannot put “and the Minister of Energy and Minerals, the honourable Brian Jean, to explain why their companies are”. We need to put that at the end. Whether you want to invite him or not is not the point.
It should read something like this: “invite Suncor CEO Rich Kruger to explain why his company is abandoning its climate targets that had been previously laid out in the face of a climate emergency; and invite as well the Minister of Energy and Minerals, the honourable Brian Jean”. We just want to clean up the grammar.
I just need unanimous consent to clean up the grammar. If you want to take out Brian Jean, that's a whole other issue.
Conservative
Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB
Unfortunately, as much as I'd like to help you, I'm the only one from Alberta here. I would like to help you with your grammar—it would lend me no amount of joy to do that—but Nathan Neudorf is the correct minister. I hope people agree that—
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
You can propose that later. This is not about who the right minister is. We're just cleaning up the grammar.
Conservative
Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB
Otherwise, we'll all be forced to vote on a motion that's grammatically incorrect.
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Yes, but then you can say, “Do you know what? It's not the right guy”, and then you propose this other fellow. You can do that.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
We all agree to correct the grammar.
I have no speakers right now, but I have a feeling that Mr. Kmiec probably wants to propose an amendment.
Conservative
Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB
Yes, Chair, and again it's going to be on the floor. I'm not going to use the rest of my papers here. It should be Minister Nathan Neudorf. This is the minister who was responsible for bringing it to cabinet. It is his responsibility. He is the minister. He was also deputy premier before, so he bears responsibility for this type of decision-making.
If you have to call a minister to explain the decision-making, he should be the one, and not a minister who is not wholly responsible for any of these regulators.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
You'd like to propose an amendment to change the words “the Minister of Energy and Minerals, the honourable Brian Jean”. You want to replace them with...?
Conservative
Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB
It would be “the Honourable Nathan Neudorf, Minister of Affordability and Utilities”.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
Mr. Chair, he's trying to make the amendment.... You just ruled that it was inadmissible. Perhaps we can ask the clerk, but we're going around in circles here a little bit.
NDP
Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC
Can I offer a potential solution, which is that Mr. Kmiec would add the minister that he's referencing to the list?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
Yes. You can't take out Mr. Jean, but you can add the other minister.
Conservative
Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB
Can we say “or”, then, or does it have to say “and”, and then have two ministers?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia
You could, I think. It's a different thing. You could say “or”.
September 21st, 2023 / 12:30 p.m.
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