I think we're both talking in the practical of how we ensure that our energy systems, our health systems and our housing systems are efficient and responsive to the world around us. We're also talking in the conceptual about how we shift our mentalities toward really thinking about fulfilling our relationship to the natural world.
For instance, on this specific question, as we have put in our submissions, part of the desire that first nations have brought to this conversation is bringing up the living standard that first nations experience to be like the rest of Canadians' through—