I think what's important is that how the rules are applied and how things.... We heard, in terms of market availability, some of the expectations in terms of electric vehicles. One would expect that those first are going to be applied in urban centres and that there will be time and build-out. There are a number of programs, including the program for electric vehicle charging stations and some of those pieces; more retail measures available from Natural Resources Canada that would support a gradual build-out over time; and the greener homes initiative, which had significant uptake with regard to heat pumps. A number of those mechanisms, as well, also supported the rollout in urban and rural areas as people wanted to make choices.
It is about choice. People need to be able to see the opportunities that are related to the transition and to build that out over time. I think that is sort of one of the big learnings of our time in being engaged in climate and energy policy. lt's that you need to incent change and need to see a practical pathway to change. There, absolutely, is a real cost that we are facing—$3 billion per year and $9 billion to the insurance agency—from weather disasters and extreme risk. We need to find that pathway to be able to ensure that people see an opportunity to be incented to make change and to also do it in a way that works for their pocketbook—for affordability—and a path forward. Spending a lot of time in a rural community myself.... You need to take that time to build up a sustainable path forward.