I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I just want some clarity.
If, as per the Standing Orders, the motion technically has not been moved, then we're not really debating anything right now, unless we move to immediately vote, which would be dilatory. We could vote on unanimous consent for the motion to be allowed to be moved, and then we could debate. Then we could excuse the witnesses. I think we just have to get our order of process here correct because right now we're just talking, and it's not actually debate.