Yes, there are a couple of different areas there. Obviously, it helps to drive new industries. We've seen that by way of example in Alberta, where carbon capture and storage is a technology that fundamentally wouldn't exist without a carbon price. You wouldn't do it without a carbon price. That technology has been largely developed in Canada with some of the first CCS projects in the entire world. We're seeing a carbon-removal industry starting up in Alberta as a result. That's also something that you wouldn't see without a carbon price.
There are new innovative technologies, and then obviously renewable energy and energy efficiency, and all those types of things also get driven by pricing emissions.
On the other hand, as you mentioned, we are seeing Europe looking at the carbon border adjustment, which means that if we don't have emissions down on our products, they're going to be taxed as they go into other jurisdictions, so we want to make sure that we're keeping those markets open for our oil and gas.