I think the best way to answer that question is to refer you to the World Bank's study on carbon pricing systems around the world. I would be very happy to provide a summary of the relevant information on that topic.
I'm very pleased to hear the representative of the cement industry acknowledge that carbon pricing can help decarbonize the industry. It's unfortunate that we don't see the same attitude in the oil and gas sector, which is now making excessive profits and continues to resist a tool that would help with decarbonization.