The data are clear. We're making it much harder, and that's been going on for some time now. It's not a recent phenomena.
I think we can be theoretical all we want, but the data are very clear, and they are facts. They're not theory. People are leaving. Talented individuals are leaving. Frankly, everyone wants to do something good for the environment, including small and medium-sized businesses. They're actually often better than large corporations, but the stick and not the carrot is not the way to go.
As we know, the belief in this climate change being man-made, years ago, was very much, “The science is settled.” Well, the science is nowhere near settled. More and more people who initially very much believed in that don't anymore once they actually analyze the data. If we don't have our economy in a decent state, which we do not right now, we won't even be able to afford the kinds of climate incentives that we might all want to do, so again—
