We've been seeing quite a bit for quite a while. It isn't just recent, as I mentioned in my formal remarks. It's been going on since long before Trump. Everything's blamed on Trump these days, as we know, but the facts show otherwise. Much of this was happening long prior to the tariff situation. It's a combination of factors like tax and the red tape regime. We represent mostly small and medium-sized businesses, and it falls so heavily on them. We really need a significant reform of our whole red tape situation.
When you ask about what indicates it, StatsCan data itself shows businesses leaving Canada. I'll give you an example. Our board of governors, which is about a dozen people, most of whom are manufacturers, had no U.S. facility 10 years ago. Now half of them do, and the other half are looking to do that.
I have both anecdotal evidence and formal statistical evidence that this is happening. We've also seen some recent data on how our talented young people are also leaving.
I think it's a combination of stories that we hear from businesses and formal data such as StatsCan data.