Thank you, Chair.
Thank you, witnesses, for being here today. I appreciate the hard work you've been doing. I hope we inform the Canadian public on shortcomings and what we expect our public servants to deliver.
Commissioner DeMarco, did you take a look at the costs associated with these programs over time and how increased costs to departments may have informed the value proposition? Do we get value for the money, and if so, how much money...? Do you understand what I'm getting at here?